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Old 04-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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Default NGC/NCS! Grades are in!

Not bad! Doublesealed never let me down.

001 2005 CHINA PANDA S10Y 70
002 2006 CHINA PANDA S10Y 66
003 1992 CHINA MARCO POLO S5Y 69
004 1999 CHINA CELEBRATION OF SPRING S10Y 67
005 1989 CHINA PANDA NEW YORK EXPO S1OZ 69
006 1989 CHINA PANDA NEW YORK EXPO S1OZ 69
007 1988 CHINA DRAGON S10Y 68

Doublesealed coins all took in 69's. Non doublesealed were all the lower grades.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:43 PM
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Doublesealed coins all took in 69's. Non doublesealed were all the lower grades.
Worth chasing the double baggers James007. Well said.

Thanks for sharing....interesting indeed.

cheers........
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:27 PM
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Worth chasing the double baggers James007. Well said.

Thanks for sharing....interesting indeed.

cheers........
It's going to be nice to get the vault situated before figuring out how to raise finances for the next allocation. The problem is prices are rising faster then I thought. I tried to scoop up a 89 proof on Sunday. PF-68.
I bid it up to $172. It went for $185.

People are bidding the proofs up. Which is what I thought would happen. But Not a pf-68. It might mean we have found a base. The base price is between $31-$33 pos. $35-$40pos will earn a new base. And so on.

Also 89-94 AG pandas are gaining lots of traction sometimes beating out proofs due to lower population in the higher grades. The 89-94 pandas are divided up into 2 different categories. Small date and large dates. With different dyes from the same year
The small and large date pandas earn much less ms-69s.

With populations split in half we are seeing less ms-69 vs. Pf-69. I will try to breakdown populations tonight.

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Old 04-04-2012, 10:54 AM
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Also 89-94 AG pandas are gaining lots of traction sometimes beating out proofs due to low scoring grades. The 89-94 pandas are divided up into 2 different categories. Small date and large dates. With different dyes from the same year
The small and large date pandas earn much less ms-69s.
Yes they have been gaining the past while. But the large date/small date differences are attributed to the 3 different mints producing the same coin. Same thing happening to the 2010's-2011's-2012's. These were made by 2 different mints, but the frustrating part is they won't release how many were produced at each mint. I find the large dates are much less common than the small dates....but...and I mean a big but, is this only in N. America and the reverse is the norm in China? That is hard to figure out. For the next little while, the above may not mean very much. Someday it very well may make a difference, so I try to collect samples of each date size.

I hear that NGC will add that info to the label for an extra $10.00. I have yet to see one.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:30 AM
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Spot the difference. New variety?

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Old 04-04-2012, 11:53 AM
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Wow...Petean88...you're onto something indeed.

Bottom photo is the large date...oblong "0" in 1990. The small date version is more of a circle "O" in 199O...but you have a very thin...large date "0".

Have never seen one of those before now. Ha..did you weigh it?

Any differences on the Panda side?

I'd contact the folks at CCF and see what they say. Better yet...send a link directly to Peter A. That's what I'd do.

cheers...nice photography by the way......
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:03 PM
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Here are the Panda side of both coins. I have shown these 2 coins to Peter A. when he was in Singapore for the coin fair over the weekend. He was quite convinced that both are genuine but to be absolutely certain he suggested that I send it to the graders. I am trying to track down one more of these "thin font LD" 1990. Went through every Panda stall at the fair but all were fat font LD.

You guys might want to check if you have this thin font LD version in your collection.



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Old 04-04-2012, 12:09 PM
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1990 SD


1990 LD (Fat Font)


1990 LD (Thin Font?)
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:22 PM
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Petean88,

Only difference I see is the bears right eyeball. Left side when viewing. Seems more eliptical in the one photo, both eyeball and socket.

Call it the "Petean88 Font"...variety.

Well you were one step ahead of me. Good you hooked up with Peter A. He certainly would know. Looks real to me. Exact same blemish of the 6th. step up from the bottom (left of the carpet) on the Temple side.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:10 PM
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Thin font large date... I like it. Don't think I've ever seen one.

How long you had it?
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