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Old 02-02-2011, 04:25 PM
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Default DHS writes to Banks:May inspect safe deposit boxes & seize contents w/ no warrants

U.S DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS TOLD BANKS - IN WRITING - IT MAY INSPECT SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES WITHOUT WARRANT AND SIEZE ANY GOLD, SILVER, GUNS OR OTHER VALUABLES IT FINDS INSIDE THOSE BOXES!

According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that "under the Patriot Act" the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make "periodic and unannounced" visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of "selected safe deposit boxes."

Further, the DHS "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items "bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature."

DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases "improper" "classified DHS Security information" to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and "any other party, to include members of the media" and further "that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act." Safety deposit box holders and depositors are not given advanced notice when failed banks shut their doors.

If people have their emergency money in a safe deposit box or an account in a bank that closes, they will not be allowed into the bank to get it out. They can knock on the door and beg to get in but the sheriff’s department or whoever is handling the closure will simply say “no” because they are just following orders.

Deposit box and account holders are not warned of the hazards of banking when they sign up. It is not until they need to get their cash or valuables out in a hurry that they find themselves in trouble.

Rules governing access to safe deposit boxes and money held in accounts are written into the charter of each bank. The charter is the statement of policy under which the bank is allowed by the government to do business. These rules are subject to change at any time by faceless bureaucrats who are answerable to no one. They can be changed without notice, without the agreement of the people, and against their will. People can complain but no one will care because this is small potatoes compared to the complaints that will be voiced when the executive order that governs national emergencies is enforced.

That order allows the suspension of habeas corpus and all rights guaranteed under the Bill of Rights.

A look at the fine print of the contract signed when a safety deposit box is opened reveals that in essence the signer has given to the bank whatever property he has put into that deposit box. When times are good people will be allowed open access to their safe deposit box and the property that is in it. This also applies to their bank accounts.

But when times get really bad, many may find that the funds they have placed on deposit and the property they thought was secured in the safe deposit box now belong to the bank, not to them. Although this was probably not explained to them when they signed their signature card, this is what they were agreeing to.

During the Great Depression in the early 1930’s people thought that many banks were going to fail. They were afraid they would lose their money so they went in mass to take it out, in what is known as a run on the banks. The government closed the banks to protect them from angry depositors who wanted their money back. Throughout history, governments have acted to protect the interests of banks and the wealthy people who own them, not the interests of depositors or box holders.

In a time of emergency, people will have no recourse if access to their safe deposit box and bank accounts is denied. If they are keeping money in a bank that would be needed in an emergency or in a time when credit is no longer free flowing, they may not be able to get it out of the bank. The emergency may occur at night or on a weekend or holiday when the bank is closed. --snip -- Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.ph...#ixzz1Cq3ARsG8

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Old 02-02-2011, 05:03 PM
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it will be pretty funny if you buy a safe deposit box, and install a trigger mechanism that will release a poison gas once they open it.


that will show them.........
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:28 PM
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I'm not sure I believe this. Too many inaccuracies. For instance, a bank run is not people emptying their safe deposit boxes:

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During the Great Depression in the early 1930ís people thought that many banks were going to fail. They were afraid they would lose their money so they went in mass to take it out, in what is known as a run on the banks.
This I can believe, though. It seems to be common knowledge that DHS employees spend a lot of time surfing the internet for pornography. Now they can take hardcopies (I'm not sure why anyone would keep pornography in a safe deposit box)?

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Further, the DHS "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items "bar gold, gold coins, ..... pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature."
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:32 PM
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If this is true it proves my point to my wife. Safe deposit boxes are not Safe.

Look if the banks close because they are afraid of runs, then of course you can't get to your box. Of course that is when you need it the most.

4th amendment violated once again. Who needs that pesky Constitution. Just gets in the way.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:40 PM
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I just got back from transferring a portion of my stack to the safe deposit box. Grrrr.....
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:16 PM
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You know that green paint that is used for bank robbers stealing a wad of cash?

Well now .....................

another thought is coating your valuables with caustic substances.
Like paper money.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:28 PM
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I knew about this BS law like 3 years ago. I'm surprised most people dont even know about it.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:36 PM
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I'm not sure I believe this. Too many inaccuracies. For instance, a bank run is not people emptying their safe deposit boxes:

Quote:Originally Posted by proudandrenewed
During the Great Depression in the early 1930’s people thought that many banks were going to fail. They were afraid they would lose their money so they went in mass to take it out, in what is known as a run on the banks.
What you quoted is in fact a bank run. Although I would hasten to add that a mass withdrawal of unsafe deposit boxes is a type of run on the bank, in that the governing principle of loss of confidence in the bank to store tangible assets, remains the same.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:38 PM
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If this is true it proves my point to my wife. Safe deposit boxes are not Safe.

Look if the banks close because they are afraid of runs, then of course you can't get to your box. Of course that is when you need it the most.

4th amendment violated once again. Who needs that pesky Constitution. Just gets in the way.
Of course they are not safe; they are a government backed concept, and as such the actual nature of the thing in question can be identified by the opposite meaning of its name; like the Patriot Act...ergo safe deposit box = unsafe deposit box.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:52 PM
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I get my news on youtube, so I knew about that two years ago

I asked the bank lady and she was like "yes, what about it?"

I pretty much just ask people directly and watch their faces.
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